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- !Archive Rec Edwin Whiting Family Assn.-Springville, UT; Early Church Memb-
Susan W. Easton.
!DEATH DATE: Gary Whiting records give death date as 21 Feb 1848
Nauvoo, Illinois Tax Index, 1842 Record about EDWIN WHITING
Given Name: EDWIN
Surname: WHITING
Page: 190
Coord.: 3N8W
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1849: Before and After Mt. Pisgah
page 192-193
In the spring of 1849, Sylvester Hulet was called to help establish a fort at Provo. It was called Fort Utah. The same spring, Edwin Whiting and family left Mt. Pisgah, Iowa and began the big trek toward the west. They visited the Coxes and Whitings at Silver Creek. Then they made their way to the Elkhorn river in Nebraska. by the time that they arrived at the Elkhorn, it had been three months since they left Mt. Pisgah. They were made part of the George A. Smith company of fifty, wagons. Ezra T. Benson was in command of the whole company of one hundred wagons. When the big trek began from there, Edwin's family consisted of the following:
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!Naoma Manwaring Harker's FGS #110 & 111 & 112
1. Family tradition: Elisha Whiting's father was a sea captain in Connecticut, dying when Elisha was a young boy. His mother bound him out to an old Quaker, and after a few years Elisha ran away and went to Massachusetts and found work with a wheelwright. He followed the trade of wagon and chair maker. About 1815 they moved to Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio.
2. TIB July 1965 found no card for #1 William except as follows: William Whiting, born 1807 of Clay Co., Mo., died 21 Oct 1834
baptized 15 Sep 1919,
endowed 28 Jan 1920 by L.D.S. Church
3. 1831 census Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
males over 21: Elisha, Edwin Whiting and Nelson Talcott 1835 census Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
males over 21: Edwin, Elisha and Charles Whiting and Nelson Talcott
4. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine Vol 7 (1916) p. 69
Burials of Elisha Whiting and wife Sally recorded on the monument at Mt. Pisgah: Monument erected 1888 in memory of those members of the church who died in 1846-7 during the exodus. On South side: Emily Whiting, Elisha Whiting, Sally Whiting, Widow Head Whiting
5. Vital Records, Lee, Berkshire , Massachusetts
First five children of Elisha and Sally recorded
6. 1860 census Fremont Co., Iowa
Chauncy Whiting age 42 and family
Sylvester Whiting age 33 and family
7. Child #3 Charles was also sealed 7 Nov. 1872 to Lois Heath
Endowment Book H of Sealings Pt. 18 pl 322
8. Ref. 973/V23g; Record of Early Members of the Church who died in Missouri, Kirtland, Nauvoo and on the plains--taken from the Evening and Morning Star; The Messenger and Advocate, The Elder's Journal; The Times and Season; The Wasp; The Nauvoo Neighbor; The Prophet; The St. Louis Luminary; The Frontier Guardian; The Mormon; The Western Standard; and the Deseret News.
!William Whiting, born 1807 Clay Co., Missouri, died 21 Oct 1834. Baptised 15 Sep 1919; Endowed 28 Jan 1920
!9. May 17, 1967; A letter just received from Mrs. Zella R. Bennion, Altamont, Utah to the effect that her 2 ggmother, Catherine Maggard married Anthony Head, who died in 1843 in Nauvoo. She started West, got to Mr. Pisgah where she died. See the above monument inscription for "widow Head Whiting". She has a letter written by a daughter of Catherine Head to :father Whiting: as he was called and wife of Catherine were cut off or disfellowshipped because of some minor infraction. They both died at Mt. Pisgah, and baptisms were re-done for both in Utah. Sally Hulett, wife of Elisha Whiting died in Aug. 1846 and Elisha died in March, 1848, so they could not have been married for long. Catherine was born in 1792, so there would have been no children from this marriage.
!10. E.H. Seal rec. (GS ser # 25165 pt. 18, Bk. H. P. 322)
11. 1835 census of Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
12. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine Vol 7 page 169
(burials of Elisha and Sally) CAll No. 979.2/B2ug
13. St. George endowments (GS ser # 23055) pt. 11 p. 433:
24 Oct 1879 #10427 Endowment for William Whiting
born Sep 1807 Lee, Massachusetts
died 1839 "died in church"
Baptized 1837
Proxy, Edwin Whiting, brother
14. Endowment House baptism for the dead (GS ser #25165, Bk. D. p. 43
6 Nov 1872 Edwin Whiting, proxy: for Elisha Whiting, son
15. TIB card: William Whiting, born 1807, of Clay Co., Mo.
died 21 Oct 1834
Baptised 15 Sep 1919
Endowed 28 Jan 1920 by LDS Church
16. Clay Co., Missouri marriages: Lydia Whiting married 24 May 1835 to Charles English (no doubt the widow of William Whiting)
17. Information in possession of Zella R. Bennion, Altamont, Utah:
GS ser #23889 pt. 25 (St. George Bapt. for the dead) Bk. W.p.7
#3419 Catherine Maggard, born Tennessee baptism 1 February 1887
proxy Sarah Head Bracken, daughter) "She was in the church and cut off because of a neighborhood difficulty, which her husband, father WHITING was cut off for. She had nothing to do with it, and should not have been cut off. This is why she baptised for her."
!On the Mt.Pisgah monument following the names of Elisha Whiting, Sally Whiting and Emily Whiting is "widow Head Whiting."
!Letter dated 28 Nov 1847 to William S. and Mary Oaks, signed by Elisha Whiting and Katharine Whiting (Mary Oaks was a daughter of Catherine Maggard Head Whiting) mentions having stayed at Norvil Head's home (son of Catherine Maggard)
!Archive Rec Edwin Whiting Family Assn.-Springville, UT; Early Church Memb- Susan W. Easton.
NOTE: SEE FILE WHITDESC FOR MORE DESCENDANTS.
!9. May 17, 1967; A letter just received from Mrs. Zella R. Bennion, Altamont, Utah to the effect that her 2 ggmother, Catherine Maggard married Anthony Head, who died in 1843 in Nauvoo. She started West, got to Mr. Pisgah where she died. See the above monument inscription for "widow Head Whiting". She has a letter written by a daughter of Catherine Head to father Whiting as he was called and wife of Catherine were cut off or disfellowshipped because of some minor infraction. They both died at Mt. Pisgah, and baptisms were re-done for both in Utah. Sally Hulett, wife of Elisha Whiting died in Aug. 1846 and Elisha died in March, 1848, so they could not have been married for long. Catherine was born in 1792, so there would have been no children from this marriage.
!DEATH DATE: Gary Whiting records give death date as 21 Feb 1848
Nauvoo, Illinois Tax Index, 1842 Record about EDWIN WHITING
Given Name: EDWIN
Surname: WHITING
Page: 190
Coord.: 3N8W
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1849: Before and After Mt. Pisgah
page 192-193 In the spring of 1849, Sylvester Hulet was called to help establish a fort at Provo. It was called Fort Utah. The same spring, Edwin Whiting and family left Mt. Pisgah, Iowa and began the big trek toward the west. They visited the Coxes and Whitings at Silver Creek. Then they made their way to the Elkhorn river in Nebraska. by the time that they arrived at the Elkhorn, it had been three monts since they left Mt. Pisgah. They were made part of the George A. Smith company of fifty, wagons. Ezra T. Benson was in command of the whole company of one hundred wagons. When the big trek began from there, Edwin's family consisted of the following:
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!Naoma Manwaring Harker's FGS #110 & 111 & 112
1. Family tradition: Elisha Whiting's father was a sea captain in Connecticut, dying when Elisha was a young boy. His mother bound him out to an old Quaker, and after a few years Elisha ran away and went to Massachusetts and found work with a wheelwright. He followed the trade of wagon and chair maker. About 1815 they moved to Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio.
2. TIB July 1965 found no card for #1 William except as follows: William Whiting, born 1807 of Clay Co., Mo., died 21 Oct 1834
baptized 15 Sep 1919,
endowed 28 Jan 1920 by L.D.S. Church
3. 1831 census Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
males over 21: Elisha, Edwin Whiting and Nelson Talcott 1835 census Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
males over 21: Edwin, Elisha and Charles Whiting and Nelson Talcott
4. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine Vol 7 (1916) p. 69
Burials of Elisha Whiting and wife Sally recorded on the monument at Mt. Pisgah: Monument erected 1888 in memory of those members of the church who died in 1846-7 during the exodus. On South side: Emily Whiting, Elisha Whiting, Sally Whiting, Widow Head Whiting
5. Vital Records, Lee, Berkshire , Massachusetts
First five children of Elisha and Sally recorded
6. 1860 census Fremont Co., Iowa
Chauncy Whiting age 42 and family
Sylvester Whiting age 33 and family
7. Child #3 Charles was also sealed 7 Nov. 1872 to Lois Heath
Endowment Book H of Sealings Pt. 18 pl 322
8. Ref. 973/V23g; Record of Early Members of the Church who died in Missouri, Kirtland, Nauvoo and on the plains--taken from the Evening and Morning Star; The Messenger and Advocate, The Elder's Journal; The Times and Season; The Wasp; The Nauvoo Neighbor; The Prophet; The St. Louis Luminary; The Frontier Guardian; The Mormon; The Western Standard; and the Deseret News.
!William Whiting, born 1807 Clay Co., Missouri, died 21 Oct 1834. Baptised 15 Sep 1919; Endowed 28 Jan 1920
!9. May 17, 1967; A letter just received from Mrs. Zella R. Bennion, Altamont, Utah to the effect that her 2 ggmother, Catherine Maggard married Anthony Head, who died in 1843 in Nauvoo. She started West, got to Mr. Pisgah where she died. See the above monument inscription for "widow Head Whiting". She has a letter written by a daughter of Catherine Head to father Whiting as he was called and wife of Catherine were cut off or disfellowshipped because of some minor infraction. They both died at Mt. Pisgah, and baptisms were re-done for both in Utah. Sally Hulett, wife of Elisha Whiting died in Aug. 1846 and Elisha died in March, 1848, so they could not have been married for long. Catherine was born in 1792, so there would have been no children from this marriage.
!10. E.H. Seal rec. (GS ser # 25165 pt. 18, Bk. H. P. 322)
11. 1835 census of Nelson, Portage Co., Ohio
12. Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine Vol 7 page 169
(burials of Elisha and Sally) CAll No. 979.2/B2ug
13. St. George endowments (GS ser # 23055) pt. 11 p. 433:
24 Oct 1879 #10427 Endowment for William Whiting
born Sep 1807 Lee, Massachusetts
died 1839 "died in church"
Baptized 1837
Proxy, Edwin Whiting, brother
14. Endowment House baptism for the dead (GS ser #25165, Bk. D. p. 43
6 Nov 1872 Edwin Whiting, proxy: for Elisha Whiting, son
15. TIB card: William Whiting, born 1807, of Clay Co., Mo.
died 21 Oct 1834
Baptised 15 Sep 1919
Endowed 28 Jan 1920 by LDS Church
16. Clay Co., Missouri marriages: Lydia Whiting married 24 May 1835 to Charles English (no doubt the widow of William Whiting)
17. Information in possession of Zella R. Bennion, Altamont, Utah:
GS ser #23889 pt. 25 (St. George Bapt. for the dead) Bk. W.p.7
#3419 Catherine Maggard, born Tennessee baptism 1 February 1887
proxy Sarah Head Bracken, daughter) "She was in the church and cut off because of a neighborhood difficulty, which her husband, father WHITING was cut off for. She had nothing to do with it, and should not have been cut off. This is why she baptised for her."
!On the Mt.Pisgah monument following the names of Elisha Whiting, Sally Whiting and Emily Whiting is "widow Head Whiting."
!Letter dated 28 Nov 1847 to William S. and Mary Oaks, signed by Elisha Whiting and Katharine Whiting (Mary Oaks was a daughter of Catherine Maggard Head Whiting) mentions having stayed at Norvil Head's home (son of Catherine Maggard)
!Archive Rec Edwin Whiting Family Assn.-Springville, UT; Early Church Memb- Susan W. Easton.
NOTE: SEE FILE WHITDESC FOR MORE DESCENDANTS.
BIRTH: Also shown as Born Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut, United States.
DEATH: Also shown as Died Mount Pisgah, Union, Iowa, United States.
BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Mount Pisgah, Union, Iowa, United States.
Elisha Whiting Birth: Dec. 17, 1785
Hartford
Hartford County
Connecticut, USA
Death: Mar., 1848
Union CountyIowa, USA
"This name is listed on a "monument erected AD 1888, in memory of those members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who died in 1846, 1847, and 1848, during their exodus to seek a home beyond the Rocky Mountains."
ELISHA WHITING, Jr. & SALLY HULET WHITING HISTORY:[Compiled from the collected writings of Martha Whiting Brown, Ruth Brown Lewis, other family writings, and historical writings as noted in text.]by Louine B. Hunter [1997 revision]
E lisha's father, Elisha, was born November 21, 1762, at Hartford Connecticut. He married Susannah Butler March 25, 1784, at West Hartford.
Elisha was a sea captain. He DESERTED his wife and children. We have the DIVORCE PAPERS.
13. Hartford probates (nothing for Elisha Whiting or Susanna his wife)
note: None of these children were christened while the father was living (or at home) and only the third was christened at all (in Hartford). The family history states that "after the death of the father, the mother apprenticed out the son to an old Quaker, from whom he ran away. The 7190 census of Connecticut does not list either Elisha or susanna as head of a family. No record of his death has been found. susannah married again in 1796 and removed to New York ( could there have been a divorce, or Elisha left home?) In August 1786 Elisha "formerly of Farmington, now of Hartford" for bad husbandry and mismanagement was taken under the care of the Selectmen of Farmington, but was released when he moved to Hartford.
! Noted in Baltimore, Maryland marriages: Elisha Whiting and Sarah Tidy 3 Jan 1791: Who is he?
!14. Records of Northampton, New York (Received by correspondence 22Jun1965)
Nothing on Reuben Simmons in land records and no other information in probates.
!15. 1790 census of Connecticut: No Elisha Whiting Reuben Simmons in Simsbury, 3 male over 16 2 females
!None of these children were christened while the father was living (or at home) and only the third was christened at all (in Hartford). The family history states that "after the death of the father, the mother apprenticed out the son to an old Quaker, from whom he ran away. The 1790 census of Conn. does not list either Elisha or Susanna as head of a family. No record of this death has been found.
Susannah married again in 1796 and removed to New York (could there have been a divorce, or Elisha left home?)
In August 1786 Elisha "formerly of Farmington, now of Hartford" for bad husbandry and mismanagement was taken under the care of the Selectmen of Farmington, but was released when he moved to Hartford.
Noted in Baltimore, Maryland marriages: Elisha Whiting and Sarah Tidy 3 Jan 1791 (who is he?);
He left his wife alone to care for their three small children in Hartford. Elisha Jr. had two younger sisters, Polly and Susannah. EDITOR'S NOTE: Although we do not have a death date for Elisha Sr., we know he died at a young age, probably around age 28, and near the year 1790. Their last child was born about 1789, and Susannah married her second husband, Reuben Simmons on May 1, 1796, indicating that Elisha and Susannah were married far less than twelve years, and probably closer to six years.
Revo lutionary War Records, Connecticut, page 541: "Elisha Whiting,[Sr.] Private in Captain Ozias Bissell's Company." His birth date is listed as November 21, 1762. The war was fought between 1775 and 1783, indicating that Elisha was somewhere between thirteen and twenty one while serving in the Revolutionary War.
ELISHA JR'S EARLY YEARS Without her husband's income, Susannah was very poor. Not knowing what else to do, she eventually bound Elisha out to an old Quaker to learn the carpentry trade. Though Elisha worked hard, the Quaker was very mean to him, sometimes hitting him and doing other cruel things.
Elisha was very unhappy. He was resentful of his mother and to all concerned that such a thing had happened to him. He never got over those feelings and his children and grandchildren knew that his lips were sealed so far as any experiences of his youth were concerned.
Cordelia Perry, his granddaughter, told Martha Whiting Brown the following: His feelings were so badly hurt that he never wanted to speak of it. One day at his chair and wagon shop in Manti, Ohio, a stranger came in and brought up the subject of being a relative from his early days. Elisha flew into a rage and refused to listen to him, then ordered him to leave his shop at once.
So we, his children's children, will never know, I guess, just what he went through, being sent from home by his mother, after his father's DESERTION. They say he was bitter about it until the day he died.
ELISH A MEETS SALLY Although he was afraid of the old Quaker, Elisha ran away to make his own way in the world. He went to Lee, Massachusetts, where he met Sylvanus Hulet, a wheelwright (one who makes repairs of wheels and wheeled vehicles) who lived on a farm. Elisha asked Sylvanus for a job, assuring him that he could do carpentry work and make chairs and furniture, so he was hired.
Ther e he met Sylvanus' daughter, Sally, a real pretty girl, the oldest of the seven Hulet children. She was part Indian and had dark hair and dark eyes. Elisha soon fell in love with Sally who was not quite seventeen years old; he was not yet twenty.
They were married September 18, 1805. Lee, Massachusetts was their first home, where their first four children were born. It was a sad day when their first baby died the same day it was born in 1806. A year later William was born, followed the next year by Edwin, their third child. Two and a half years later Charles was born. The next two children, Catherine, 3 Oct 1813, and Harriet, 16 Aug 1815, were born in their second place of residence.
NELSON, PORTAGE, OHIO, 1817 When little Edwin was six, the family traveled over the Mohawk Trail to Nelson, Ohio, which was then the western frontier, probably the very place Elisha wished to be to get suitable timber for his carpentry trade, to support his growing family.
Eli sha built a log cabin on a quiet sloping hill that looked out over the valley. He built an open fireplace where Sally cooked. An iron crane protruded from the side where Sally would hang a kettle from the crane and push it back over the fire. When she wanted to bake bread, she put the dough inside the kettle and put red hot coals on the flat top.
Around the room were beds, a table and a cupboard. After all, her husband was a carpenter who learned to do beautiful work while he was with the old Quaker. He made a handsome black walnut bureau for Sally that she was very proud of. The girls slept in a trundle bed that was pulled out from under their parent's bed. They soon built another section onto their log cabin. One side they lived in; the other side was a wagon and carpentry shop At night they lit tallow candles and burned knots from pine trees in the fireplace while they told stories.
The last six of their twelve children were born in Nelson, Portage, Ohio: Emeline, Chauncy, Almon, Jane, Sylvester, and Lewis. Their education was limited, but they were all taught "the three R's: Readin', Ritin', and Rithmetic." We are told that Sally Hulet Whiting was a wonderful woman and that she was very gifted in writing prose and poetry, a characteristic bequeathed to many of her Whiting descendants. Sally and Elisha were some of the most respected citizens of Nelson. They were honest, generous, and firm in their convictions.
THREE STORIES ABOUT CATHERINE Catherine was the fourth child of Sally and Elisha. Catherine spent a lot of time with her relatives, especially her grandmother, Mary Lewis Hulet, and her aunts and cousins.
A TRIP THROUGH THE WOODS One day Catherine went to visit her aunt who sent her on an errand to borrow a pattern from a friend who lived about a mile away, straight through the woods. She knew she wouldn't get lost, but it was kind of scary to go into the woods alone. She wanted to please her aunt so she tied on her sunbonnet and began her errand. As she went along she saw some snakes, but she was used to them, they did not frighten her. She saw plenty of rabbits and squirrels and other little animals. The forest was beautiful and interesting and she was having a good time.
She soon reached the aunt's house, got the pattern from her and started back. When she was almost home she saw a big, black bear. Upon seeing Catherine, the bear rose to his hind feet! Catherine was nearly paralyzed with fear, so frightened that she could not move. After the bear watched her for a little while it dropped down on all fours and lumbered away with a growl. She ran the rest of the way home.
THE CHIEF'S SON Sometimes the Indians came to see the people. When Catherine Whiting was a little girl, an Indian chief came with his little son. He had shining black eyes, copper colored skin, and his father was very proud of him. Because the father was a chief, both were dressed in colorful beads, earrings, brooches, and elaborate clothes.The chief thought Catherine was so cute that he told her he would give her one of his brooches if she would kiss his little son. She really wanted that brooch, but she did not want to kiss the boy. The chief was quite offended; he thought she should be very proud to kiss his son, but she would not kiss him.
After the Indians went away, Sally, Catherine's mother, was afraid they might come back and do some harm, but they never did.
BEDTIM E FRIGHT One evening while their father (Elisha) was away, the family sat around the fire talking. Catherine became sleepy but she did not want to take a candle up the stairs, so she went up in the dark and got ready for bed. She put her hand down to turn the covers back and felt a big, hairy head. "Oh!" she screamed, and fled down the stairs crying, "There's a man sleeping in my bed!"
Her mother was alarmed but bravely flew into action. She took a broom in one hand and a candle in the other and dashed up the stairs, followed by her boys who held clubs at the ready. They all rushed into the room to find out WHO WAS SLEEPING IN CATHERINE'S BED?, just like the "Three Bears and Goldilocks".
When they held up the candle, they saw their old dog, Paint, under the covers. The boys laughed and teased Catherine!
EDWIN AND THE GUN In the Whiting family, no one was allowed to hunt on the Sabbath. One Sunday morning Edwin decided he wanted to go hunting, so he tried to sneak his gun out of the house by drawing it through a crack between the logs. The gun got caught, fired, and wounded his left arm. That was a lesson to keep the Sabbath day holy that he never forgot. He retold this story to his children and grandchildren many times. Source: Louine Berry Hunter
Elisha died in Mar 1848 in Mt. Pisgah, Union, Iowa.
Family links:
Spouse:
Sally Hulet Whiting (1787 - 1846)
Children:
Edwin Whiting (1809 - 1890)*
Catherine Louisa Whiting Talcott (1813 - 1900)*
Emeline Sally Whiting Cox (1817 - 1896)*
Chauncey Whiting (1819 - 1902)*
Sylvester Whiting (1827 - 1915)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Mount Pisgah Cemetery
Thayer
Union County
Iowa, USA
Maintained by: Sunflower Lady
Originally Created by: Shiver
Record added: Jan 09, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8251337
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SUFFIX: Also shown as Jr
BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Mt. Pisgah, Union, Iowa, United States.
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1785 - 1848 (62 years)